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		<title>By: Mandy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mandy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Sep 2007 11:46:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thank you Robert for your post, I too have passed by Hill St. Park on many occasions only to find it empty, as Robert I too see groups still chatting at Highland Gardens as their dogs run free. 
Mandy B</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you Robert for your post, I too have passed by Hill St. Park on many occasions only to find it empty, as Robert I too see groups still chatting at Highland Gardens as their dogs run free.<br />
Mandy B</p>
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		<title>By: Robert F</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Aug 2007 15:57:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I came across this article written in the Hamilton Spec today, it really sums some of the debate that was taking place on this blog last February about responsible dog owners.
I am attaching this as a reminder to the proposed &quot;leash free&quot; campaign at Highland Gardens, I am now sure the correct decision was made.
I have walked and driven by the Hill St Park on many occasions to find it empty of dogs and their owners, where are these people who proposed and fought for a &quot;leash free&quot; area in Kirkendall? Why yes they are still lounging at Highland Gardens, what a futile exercise you folks went through, and not to mention the time and wasted tax dollars. I have to ask Jacqui, Bob, Janice, Kellee and M-C have you made use of the Hill St. Park &quot;leash free&quot; area?


August 25, 2007 
Dianne Rinehart
The Hamilton Spectator
(Aug 25, 2007) 
Some of my best friends are bad dog owners -- not as in they own &quot;bad dogs,&quot; but that they are &quot;bad.&quot; Very bad!

I&#039;m uncomfortable when they walk their dogs off-leash -- in on-leash areas. A gentle reminder doesn&#039;t deter them; the rules don&#039;t apply to their dogs.

And I&#039;m embarrassed when they shout back at people who demand they leash their dogs, rather than apologize.

And have I mentioned humiliation? As in two separate occasions when friends insisted on walking their dogs through a cemetery, clearly marked with a no-dogs sign, and the caretakers disdainfully ordered us out. Why, you may wonder, was I the only one leaving, tail between my legs?

And then there was the shame when my girlfriend&#039;s dogs, which were running beside us, leapt up to lick and sniff a clearly terrified postal worker -- despite his and my entreaties for her to call them.

Instead, she sang out sweetly: &quot;Gosh, don&#039;t worry, they don&#039;t bite,&quot; -- utterly insensitive to his palpable fear. I&#039;d had enough: &quot;Don&#039;t you understand some people are afraid of dogs?&quot; I demanded. She stared blankly, then soothed her dogs -- not the postal worker -- before letting them loose.

And she&#039;s normally -- except when it comes to her dogs -- an exceedingly well-mannered woman, clearly one of the thousands of nice dog owners across the country whose laissez faire and entitled attitudes about their pets are increasingly alienating the rest of us, dog lovers or not.

How can they not get it when news stories about dog conflict abound?

Take this week&#039;s: Dog bites of Canada Post carriers in British Columbia were double last summer&#039;s total, and are reportedly up 50 per cent in Calgary. That doesn&#039;t bode well for total 2007 figures. Bad enough in 2006 when there were 438 dog bites reported -- 135 of which resulted in a disabling injury, with an additional 272 requiring medical aid, Canada Post says.

This news came a week after I met a postal worker who, as he asked me to leash my dog, told me he&#039;d been bitten three times after owners told him: &quot;Don&#039;t worry, he doesn&#039;t bite.&quot; Problem was, it wasn&#039;t my dog he wanted leashed, and I too was desperately searching for its &quot;master&quot; -- ha! -- as the dog leapt on me. No one in sight.

Or how about this: Faced with increasing reports of dogs biting humans -- and each other -- and terrorizing children in parks, cities across the country are spending millions to balance demands of dog owners for more off-leash areas against those of parents who want to protect their children. &quot;Dogfights loom as city studies 10 potential off-leash areas,&quot; noted one witty headline. Sadly, it wasn&#039;t exaggerating the ferocity between the opposing groups. Not to mention the anger of taxpayers, who woke up to read about Toronto council&#039;s decision to spend another $1.5 million annually to fence more leash-free areas in parks and hire 10 new doggy enforcement officers -- even as it debates shutting libraries, pools and portions of its transit system to make ends meet.

Meanwhile, Vancouver is debating, at similarly raucous meetings, establishing fenced areas within fenced areas -- to separate little dogs from the big bullies.

What ever happened to commanding a dog to heel? Or would they need therapy after that?

Worse, according to a pal who works for Vancouver&#039;s parks board, people now compete with dogs for park space. Which do you want? Fenced-in runs for dogs, or a ball diamond for a new girls&#039; league, or a playing field for Ultimate Frisbee teams, or plots for community gardens? Because with reduced acquisition of parkland and rising populations, there&#039;s not room and money for it all, he says.

And it&#039;s not just owners of off-leash dogs causing consternation. On crowded city sidewalks owners stroll on one side, while their dogs sniff along the other -- and the leash stretches between them. Pedestrians hurrying from either direction must ask permission to pass -- or step into oncoming traffic.

And this week, as I fled down a stairwell during a fire alarm, I was trapped behind a woman who stopped leisurely at each floor to let her dog sniff around, blocking the rest of us behind her dog&#039;s leash. &quot;He likes to sniff,&quot; she told me -- as in: You&#039;ll just have to be patient. A rumbling of discontent behind me signalled she might want to rethink her attitude, at which point she reluctantly reeled him in, inviting the rest of us to pass -- rather than hurry him up.

So let&#039;s see: Increased incidents of dogs biting people and other dogs, increased expenses to fence off-leash areas, increased expenses for bylaw enforcement, loss of park space for people -- and we haven&#039;t even reached the expensive nightmare of dealing with all the bagged doggy do-do left in city garbage containers.

Oh, and before you send your hate mail, I love dogs.

Too bad they can&#039;t send their masters to obedience school.

Dianne Rinehart is a Toronto-based writer and editor from Hamilton who has worked as a correspondent in Ottawa, Vancouver, and Moscow.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I came across this article written in the Hamilton Spec today, it really sums some of the debate that was taking place on this blog last February about responsible dog owners.<br />
I am attaching this as a reminder to the proposed &#8220;leash free&#8221; campaign at Highland Gardens, I am now sure the correct decision was made.<br />
I have walked and driven by the Hill St Park on many occasions to find it empty of dogs and their owners, where are these people who proposed and fought for a &#8220;leash free&#8221; area in Kirkendall? Why yes they are still lounging at Highland Gardens, what a futile exercise you folks went through, and not to mention the time and wasted tax dollars. I have to ask Jacqui, Bob, Janice, Kellee and M-C have you made use of the Hill St. Park &#8220;leash free&#8221; area?</p>
<p>August 25, 2007<br />
Dianne Rinehart<br />
The Hamilton Spectator<br />
(Aug 25, 2007)<br />
Some of my best friends are bad dog owners &#8212; not as in they own &#8220;bad dogs,&#8221; but that they are &#8220;bad.&#8221; Very bad!</p>
<p>I&#8217;m uncomfortable when they walk their dogs off-leash &#8212; in on-leash areas. A gentle reminder doesn&#8217;t deter them; the rules don&#8217;t apply to their dogs.</p>
<p>And I&#8217;m embarrassed when they shout back at people who demand they leash their dogs, rather than apologize.</p>
<p>And have I mentioned humiliation? As in two separate occasions when friends insisted on walking their dogs through a cemetery, clearly marked with a no-dogs sign, and the caretakers disdainfully ordered us out. Why, you may wonder, was I the only one leaving, tail between my legs?</p>
<p>And then there was the shame when my girlfriend&#8217;s dogs, which were running beside us, leapt up to lick and sniff a clearly terrified postal worker &#8212; despite his and my entreaties for her to call them.</p>
<p>Instead, she sang out sweetly: &#8220;Gosh, don&#8217;t worry, they don&#8217;t bite,&#8221; &#8212; utterly insensitive to his palpable fear. I&#8217;d had enough: &#8220;Don&#8217;t you understand some people are afraid of dogs?&#8221; I demanded. She stared blankly, then soothed her dogs &#8212; not the postal worker &#8212; before letting them loose.</p>
<p>And she&#8217;s normally &#8212; except when it comes to her dogs &#8212; an exceedingly well-mannered woman, clearly one of the thousands of nice dog owners across the country whose laissez faire and entitled attitudes about their pets are increasingly alienating the rest of us, dog lovers or not.</p>
<p>How can they not get it when news stories about dog conflict abound?</p>
<p>Take this week&#8217;s: Dog bites of Canada Post carriers in British Columbia were double last summer&#8217;s total, and are reportedly up 50 per cent in Calgary. That doesn&#8217;t bode well for total 2007 figures. Bad enough in 2006 when there were 438 dog bites reported &#8212; 135 of which resulted in a disabling injury, with an additional 272 requiring medical aid, Canada Post says.</p>
<p>This news came a week after I met a postal worker who, as he asked me to leash my dog, told me he&#8217;d been bitten three times after owners told him: &#8220;Don&#8217;t worry, he doesn&#8217;t bite.&#8221; Problem was, it wasn&#8217;t my dog he wanted leashed, and I too was desperately searching for its &#8220;master&#8221; &#8212; ha! &#8212; as the dog leapt on me. No one in sight.</p>
<p>Or how about this: Faced with increasing reports of dogs biting humans &#8212; and each other &#8212; and terrorizing children in parks, cities across the country are spending millions to balance demands of dog owners for more off-leash areas against those of parents who want to protect their children. &#8220;Dogfights loom as city studies 10 potential off-leash areas,&#8221; noted one witty headline. Sadly, it wasn&#8217;t exaggerating the ferocity between the opposing groups. Not to mention the anger of taxpayers, who woke up to read about Toronto council&#8217;s decision to spend another $1.5 million annually to fence more leash-free areas in parks and hire 10 new doggy enforcement officers &#8212; even as it debates shutting libraries, pools and portions of its transit system to make ends meet.</p>
<p>Meanwhile, Vancouver is debating, at similarly raucous meetings, establishing fenced areas within fenced areas &#8212; to separate little dogs from the big bullies.</p>
<p>What ever happened to commanding a dog to heel? Or would they need therapy after that?</p>
<p>Worse, according to a pal who works for Vancouver&#8217;s parks board, people now compete with dogs for park space. Which do you want? Fenced-in runs for dogs, or a ball diamond for a new girls&#8217; league, or a playing field for Ultimate Frisbee teams, or plots for community gardens? Because with reduced acquisition of parkland and rising populations, there&#8217;s not room and money for it all, he says.</p>
<p>And it&#8217;s not just owners of off-leash dogs causing consternation. On crowded city sidewalks owners stroll on one side, while their dogs sniff along the other &#8212; and the leash stretches between them. Pedestrians hurrying from either direction must ask permission to pass &#8212; or step into oncoming traffic.</p>
<p>And this week, as I fled down a stairwell during a fire alarm, I was trapped behind a woman who stopped leisurely at each floor to let her dog sniff around, blocking the rest of us behind her dog&#8217;s leash. &#8220;He likes to sniff,&#8221; she told me &#8212; as in: You&#8217;ll just have to be patient. A rumbling of discontent behind me signalled she might want to rethink her attitude, at which point she reluctantly reeled him in, inviting the rest of us to pass &#8212; rather than hurry him up.</p>
<p>So let&#8217;s see: Increased incidents of dogs biting people and other dogs, increased expenses to fence off-leash areas, increased expenses for bylaw enforcement, loss of park space for people &#8212; and we haven&#8217;t even reached the expensive nightmare of dealing with all the bagged doggy do-do left in city garbage containers.</p>
<p>Oh, and before you send your hate mail, I love dogs.</p>
<p>Too bad they can&#8217;t send their masters to obedience school.</p>
<p>Dianne Rinehart is a Toronto-based writer and editor from Hamilton who has worked as a correspondent in Ottawa, Vancouver, and Moscow.</p>
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		<title>By: RM</title>
		<link>http://kirkendallhood.ca/2007/02/leash-free-at-hill-street-park/#comment-849</link>
		<dc:creator>RM</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Apr 2007 01:10:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am against any leash free dog areas in the city.I own a dog and I feel no need to have him run free.Too dangerous!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am against any leash free dog areas in the city.I own a dog and I feel no need to have him run free.Too dangerous!</p>
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		<title>By: M-C</title>
		<link>http://kirkendallhood.ca/2007/02/leash-free-at-hill-street-park/#comment-632</link>
		<dc:creator>M-C</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Apr 2007 03:38:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Let me make it clear: I am a proponent of a fenced-in park. I do not think that a unfenced leash-free park is a proper solution to the existing problem, whether said park is at the Rez or at Hill Street. As far as I know, Hill Street will not be fenced. I doubt it will solve the existing problem at the Rez. I fear it will create a new one at Hill Street.

Granted, both a fenced-in or a not fenced-in leash-free park may attract some irresponsible dog owners.  This is one of the many reasons it should be fenced. People of Kirkendall have said over and over again that some irresponsible dog owners use the Rez as a leash-free park. The problem is there - there at the Rez, where it&#039;s not being addressed. I believe that, should out-of-control animals be contained, the risk faced by the public would lessen. Should they remain uncontained at Hill Street, it will not. It may even increase, since the proposed park is very close to a busy road (Dundurn) and right accross residences.

As I pointed out in my earlier comments, the inappropriate behavior witnessed at meetings came from both proponents and opponents of the leash-free area. My comments on that aspect of the situation were aimed at individuals within each of these groups.

I am trying to remain as rational as I can in what has become a very emotional debate.

M-C</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Let me make it clear: I am a proponent of a fenced-in park. I do not think that a unfenced leash-free park is a proper solution to the existing problem, whether said park is at the Rez or at Hill Street. As far as I know, Hill Street will not be fenced. I doubt it will solve the existing problem at the Rez. I fear it will create a new one at Hill Street.</p>
<p>Granted, both a fenced-in or a not fenced-in leash-free park may attract some irresponsible dog owners.  This is one of the many reasons it should be fenced. People of Kirkendall have said over and over again that some irresponsible dog owners use the Rez as a leash-free park. The problem is there &#8211; there at the Rez, where it&#8217;s not being addressed. I believe that, should out-of-control animals be contained, the risk faced by the public would lessen. Should they remain uncontained at Hill Street, it will not. It may even increase, since the proposed park is very close to a busy road (Dundurn) and right accross residences.</p>
<p>As I pointed out in my earlier comments, the inappropriate behavior witnessed at meetings came from both proponents and opponents of the leash-free area. My comments on that aspect of the situation were aimed at individuals within each of these groups.</p>
<p>I am trying to remain as rational as I can in what has become a very emotional debate.</p>
<p>M-C</p>
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		<title>By: Mandy B</title>
		<link>http://kirkendallhood.ca/2007/02/leash-free-at-hill-street-park/#comment-631</link>
		<dc:creator>Mandy B</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Apr 2007 01:34:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>We all know Osmond Noor is an irresponsible dog owner, the question is does he? That I doubt! My fear of having an off leash situation at Highland Gardens is the Osmond Noors out there that bring dogs to our park? I have witnessed those dog owners at Highland gardens and thank god no one has been seriously hurt yet.
I admit M-C has made some valid comments in her last entry, I am also a Mother who feels for Jerron and his family, I also stand to protect my children, campaigning against an off leash area at Highland Gardens was my right as a Mother to protect my young children.
M-C talks about unpleasant behaviors and finger pointing at meetings, let me quote one of the proponents in this matter â€œPeople who want to avoid dogs have virtually the whole city of Hamilton at their disposal&quot;; it was those immature comments by the proponents that helped unit the opposition.
I agree with Mark that Brian McHattie did a great job with the due process in this matter and the proper decision was made.
Mandy B</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We all know Osmond Noor is an irresponsible dog owner, the question is does he? That I doubt! My fear of having an off leash situation at Highland Gardens is the Osmond Noors out there that bring dogs to our park? I have witnessed those dog owners at Highland gardens and thank god no one has been seriously hurt yet.<br />
I admit M-C has made some valid comments in her last entry, I am also a Mother who feels for Jerron and his family, I also stand to protect my children, campaigning against an off leash area at Highland Gardens was my right as a Mother to protect my young children.<br />
M-C talks about unpleasant behaviors and finger pointing at meetings, let me quote one of the proponents in this matter â€œPeople who want to avoid dogs have virtually the whole city of Hamilton at their disposal&#8221;; it was those immature comments by the proponents that helped unit the opposition.<br />
I agree with Mark that Brian McHattie did a great job with the due process in this matter and the proper decision was made.<br />
Mandy B</p>
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		<title>By: Mark</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mark</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Apr 2007 19:10:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>M-C and I seem to share the opinion that Mr. Noor does not know how to train a dog and is also an irresponsible Dog Parent, we also seem to agree that a fenced venue or &quot;dog park&quot; is the most suited for a leash free area, however I disagree that the city has done nothing to prevent the situation at the rez, I believe by assigning Hill St park as a leash free area it will not only detour people and there dogs from the rez but will allow animal control to focus more on the rez and the problems there. I also believe Brian McHattie did a fabulous job of due process in this matter and the proper decision was made regarding the rez.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>M-C and I seem to share the opinion that Mr. Noor does not know how to train a dog and is also an irresponsible Dog Parent, we also seem to agree that a fenced venue or &#8220;dog park&#8221; is the most suited for a leash free area, however I disagree that the city has done nothing to prevent the situation at the rez, I believe by assigning Hill St park as a leash free area it will not only detour people and there dogs from the rez but will allow animal control to focus more on the rez and the problems there. I also believe Brian McHattie did a fabulous job of due process in this matter and the proper decision was made regarding the rez.</p>
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		<title>By: M-C</title>
		<link>http://kirkendallhood.ca/2007/02/leash-free-at-hill-street-park/#comment-493</link>
		<dc:creator>M-C</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Apr 2007 16:55:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>On Mark&#039;s recent posting: note that the owner of the 2 Rottweilers who attacked Jerron Zhang stated that his dogs had never seen a toddler. That, in my opinion, is evidence that this man had no clue how to train a dog. Had he read any decent dog training book, he would have known that dogs must be exposed to people all ages as puppies, prior to 12 weeks of age, in order to be properly socialized. Not exposing dogs to youngsters is, in my opinion, irresponsible dog ownership. It is rightly that these two dogs were put down given what they did, given the type of owner they had and given the little chance that they ever got socialized properly. There is no question that they inflicted indelible scaring, both visible and invisible, to young Jerron and his family. I too am a mother and my thoughts are with them.

Brian McHattie is moving forward with the Hill St Park project. This park will not be fenced. As for the situation at the Rez, status quo remains. I am a proponent of a fenced-in park at the Rez (not just a leash-free, a fenced-in park) as I explained in earlier comments. Should I, however, be an opponent to the Rez being used as a leash-free zone, I would be beside myself with the lack of leadership showed regarding the actual problem of dogs running free at the Rez. Nothing has been done to prevent or even improve this situation which has been ongoing for years. There is a problem at the Rez. It remains untackled. Unable to enforce its onw by-laws, the City chooses to turn a blind eye on the issue instead of looking for a solution. I fully understand that some people be afraid to go to the Rez. They have said over and over that there are out-of-control dogs there, and even though none of these dogs belong to me, I feel that these folks are right in asking for some form of protection.
A middle ground has to be found between stern opponents of any kind of leash-free park and proponents of a free for all. It is the City&#039;s responsibility to help both sides find one. Knowing that the City has tolerated dogs running loose at the Rez for years, what should a victim do, shall he/she be bitten by a dog owned by an insolvent owner? Would a lawyer suggest that such victim sue the City? Would the victim succeed? Who knows?

In the meeting related to the off-leash park that I have attended, I have noticed very unpleasant behaviors coming from both proponents and oponents to the project. The level of discussion has lowered to aggressive finger pointing, impolite interrupting and even name-calling. As long as people allow themselves to behave this way, and as long as the meeting chair tolerates it, these meetings are going to go nowhere.

I am a law professional, a businesswoman, a professionally trained, experienced dog owner and an athlete. My time is limited. I am willing to put some of it, and some of my skills, into finding a solution for the problem created by dogs running loose at the Rez. However, I will not do so for people who forget their manners, nor for people who do not have the courage to address real problems and look for creative solutions.

I have a feeling that, faced with problems in one of its parks, this City has once again settled for mediocrity.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>On Mark&#8217;s recent posting: note that the owner of the 2 Rottweilers who attacked Jerron Zhang stated that his dogs had never seen a toddler. That, in my opinion, is evidence that this man had no clue how to train a dog. Had he read any decent dog training book, he would have known that dogs must be exposed to people all ages as puppies, prior to 12 weeks of age, in order to be properly socialized. Not exposing dogs to youngsters is, in my opinion, irresponsible dog ownership. It is rightly that these two dogs were put down given what they did, given the type of owner they had and given the little chance that they ever got socialized properly. There is no question that they inflicted indelible scaring, both visible and invisible, to young Jerron and his family. I too am a mother and my thoughts are with them.</p>
<p>Brian McHattie is moving forward with the Hill St Park project. This park will not be fenced. As for the situation at the Rez, status quo remains. I am a proponent of a fenced-in park at the Rez (not just a leash-free, a fenced-in park) as I explained in earlier comments. Should I, however, be an opponent to the Rez being used as a leash-free zone, I would be beside myself with the lack of leadership showed regarding the actual problem of dogs running free at the Rez. Nothing has been done to prevent or even improve this situation which has been ongoing for years. There is a problem at the Rez. It remains untackled. Unable to enforce its onw by-laws, the City chooses to turn a blind eye on the issue instead of looking for a solution. I fully understand that some people be afraid to go to the Rez. They have said over and over that there are out-of-control dogs there, and even though none of these dogs belong to me, I feel that these folks are right in asking for some form of protection.<br />
A middle ground has to be found between stern opponents of any kind of leash-free park and proponents of a free for all. It is the City&#8217;s responsibility to help both sides find one. Knowing that the City has tolerated dogs running loose at the Rez for years, what should a victim do, shall he/she be bitten by a dog owned by an insolvent owner? Would a lawyer suggest that such victim sue the City? Would the victim succeed? Who knows?</p>
<p>In the meeting related to the off-leash park that I have attended, I have noticed very unpleasant behaviors coming from both proponents and oponents to the project. The level of discussion has lowered to aggressive finger pointing, impolite interrupting and even name-calling. As long as people allow themselves to behave this way, and as long as the meeting chair tolerates it, these meetings are going to go nowhere.</p>
<p>I am a law professional, a businesswoman, a professionally trained, experienced dog owner and an athlete. My time is limited. I am willing to put some of it, and some of my skills, into finding a solution for the problem created by dogs running loose at the Rez. However, I will not do so for people who forget their manners, nor for people who do not have the courage to address real problems and look for creative solutions.</p>
<p>I have a feeling that, faced with problems in one of its parks, this City has once again settled for mediocrity.</p>
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		<title>By: Mark</title>
		<link>http://kirkendallhood.ca/2007/02/leash-free-at-hill-street-park/#comment-362</link>
		<dc:creator>Mark</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Mar 2007 10:26:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I copied this article for those who think off leash dogs are NOT dangerous.

By Susan Clairmont
The Hamilton Spectator
More articles by this columnist
(Mar 28, 2007) 
The Rottweiler owner probably isn&#039;t what you expected.

He is ... nice.

Soft-spoken. Well-mannered. Clean-cut. Reasonable.

Remorseful.

He is standing in his tidy kitchen talking about the moment he learned from an animal control officer that his two dogs had ripped into little Jerron Zhang. That the toddler was chewed and mauled on Christmas Day as he entered the Memorial School playground. That he was gravely injured.

&quot;I almost threw up when I heard the news,&quot; he says. &quot;After that it was just a blur.&quot;

His name is Osmond Noor and he faces two charges under the provincial Dog Owners&#039; Liability Act. He is 34. A home renovator. He has lived in his house on Dunsmure Road with Nadia Baldwin, his girlfriend, for 18 months. She faces the same charges.

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I copied this article for those who think off leash dogs are NOT dangerous.</p>
<p>By Susan Clairmont<br />
The Hamilton Spectator<br />
More articles by this columnist<br />
(Mar 28, 2007)<br />
The Rottweiler owner probably isn&#8217;t what you expected.</p>
<p>He is &#8230; nice.</p>
<p>Soft-spoken. Well-mannered. Clean-cut. Reasonable.</p>
<p>Remorseful.</p>
<p>He is standing in his tidy kitchen talking about the moment he learned from an animal control officer that his two dogs had ripped into little Jerron Zhang. That the toddler was chewed and mauled on Christmas Day as he entered the Memorial School playground. That he was gravely injured.</p>
<p>&#8220;I almost threw up when I heard the news,&#8221; he says. &#8220;After that it was just a blur.&#8221;</p>
<p>His name is Osmond Noor and he faces two charges under the provincial Dog Owners&#8217; Liability Act. He is 34. A home renovator. He has lived in his house on Dunsmure Road with Nadia Baldwin, his girlfriend, for 18 months. She faces the same charges.</p>
<p>[Editor: to read the rest of this article, <a href="http://www.hamiltonspectator.com/NASApp/cs/ContentServer?pagename=hamilton/Layout/Article_Type1&#038;call_pageid=1014656316146&#038;c=Article&#038;cid=1175058372215" rel="nofollow">click here</a>.  I have removed the rest of the article for copyright reasons.]</p>
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		<title>By: AJR</title>
		<link>http://kirkendallhood.ca/2007/02/leash-free-at-hill-street-park/#comment-316</link>
		<dc:creator>AJR</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 25 Mar 2007 12:53:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks Mandy for linking me to the site...Being a dog owner I appreciate our pets need for exercise and understand certain dogs need to be socialized, however the rez is a sports park with the Bruce Trail positioned directly in its middle therefore I&#039;m not convinced the rez is the appropriate venue for a leash free area. 
I must commend M-C and participants for their effort in picking up feces in the park and along the trails, there has been an abundance of late and I too don&#039;t believe it is &quot;just a few&quot;.
AJR</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks Mandy for linking me to the site&#8230;Being a dog owner I appreciate our pets need for exercise and understand certain dogs need to be socialized, however the rez is a sports park with the Bruce Trail positioned directly in its middle therefore I&#8217;m not convinced the rez is the appropriate venue for a leash free area.<br />
I must commend M-C and participants for their effort in picking up feces in the park and along the trails, there has been an abundance of late and I too don&#8217;t believe it is &#8220;just a few&#8221;.<br />
AJR</p>
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		<title>By: Ben</title>
		<link>http://kirkendallhood.ca/2007/02/leash-free-at-hill-street-park/#comment-254</link>
		<dc:creator>Ben</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Mar 2007 01:30:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The Canada Safety council estimates that 460,000 people are bitten by dogs in Canada each year, this is almost each person in Hamilton biten in one year. Let me ask this question, what are the chances of this stat decreasing if we allow an off leash situation at the rez?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Canada Safety council estimates that 460,000 people are bitten by dogs in Canada each year, this is almost each person in Hamilton biten in one year. Let me ask this question, what are the chances of this stat decreasing if we allow an off leash situation at the rez?</p>
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